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Dark Calling Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 40	Posted - 2012.09.03 07:38:00 - [1] - Quote I know very well that i am about the get flamed to hell and back for the following post and idea.. But before you do that, please read all the way through and then discuss or hate if you wish.. I think that a new Module should be created exclusively just for a Hulk and the Hulk itself given a completely new fitting slot next to rigs to accommodate it.. The module would be something similar to a Siege module to provide large defensive capabilities when activated.. The Module itself would take a very long time to train for and require a new expensive type of fuel to be present in your cargo hold for the module to work.. This would prevent everyone and his grandma from having the module or even being able to use it effectively.. The reason i think a Module like this is needed for the Hulk is it is well known that Hulks are the most Ganked ship in the game and very expensive to replace.. It is also the best mining ship in the game and any real miner would love to fly one.. But many cant because they know if they do, its just like throwing 200mil out the window.. Mineral prices continue to go up and up because there are less and less of them with miners being killed off left right and center.. Which in turn makes the price of T1 items rise.. The prices of some of the T1 ships in this game on the market have become ridiculous.. Now.. I have all the skills to fly a Hulk pretty well.. I mine and manufacture Ammunition and Ships to pay for my activities in the Militia.. When i first skilled up for a Hulk a few Years ago.. of course i bought one, but it was not long before a Armageddon warped into the belt and ruined my day.. Which is fine.. I just decided never to bother with Hulk again because suicide ganking happens way too often.. So i stick to my not as good or fun to fly Covetor.. I know mining barges recently recieved some buffs.. But it is nowhere near the level needed to defend yourself against a Battleship in a Mining Barge.. Sure a Skiff can do it with the right fit.. But not many Skiffs get ganked.. It is always Hulk.. I can be mining in a Covetor in a belt and an Apoc or Armageddon warps in and does nothing, just warps to a different belt.. Guaranteed to be looking for a Hulk pilot.. This happens daily in many different systems.. This type of thing removes a lot of mining game play.. Because you actually dont want to fly a Hulk for the simple fact you know if you do someone will "Suicide gank" your ship.. Now you can call Miners carebears if you wish.. Thats fine, but the fact is most Miners mine to pay for there PVP and i think it is time to give miners a way to fight back.. Not with guns, but with DEFENSIVE CAPABILITIES.. It will make every Apoc and Armageddon out there think twice before attacking a Hulk pilot because if they have this new Defensive Module, Concord will destroy them before they make a dent.. Which i think would be a great addition to the game.. Anyway, this thread is long enough.. This is just what i think about it.. Suicide ganking should not be so common that it actually effects the market and the entire playerbase.. I wont even Mention GOONS.. Because i really dont need too... [HATE SHIELD ACTIVATED] [SHIELDS AT 100%] Failure Is Not Falling Down.. Failure Is Refusing To Get Back Up
Dark Calling Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 40	Posted - 2012.09.03 07:49:00 - [2] - Quote smokess wrote: Did you completely miss the barge update? Hulks mine the most and are supposed to have the lowest defensive capability of the three barge classes. I understand this.. But like i said, Hulk is the most ganked Barge/Ship in the entire game.. So why not give Hulk the Defensive capabilities, its the main mining ship that definitely needs it and is actively sought after to be destroyed on a daily basis by every suicide ganker in space.. It may have been buffed a little in yield, but it still does not outweigh the risk of losing it.. It is ganked far to often to be worth it.. Like everyone says in EVE... Its all about Risk v Reward.. And for years now the Risk of using a Hulk is far to high, even now with this buff its just not worth it.. Hulks should be able to defend themselves.. Its been years and millions of Hulk destroyed.. I think it must be time to Adapt defensively and give suicide gankers something to think about.. Instead right now they just warp to a belt with a few cheap T1 guns and modules and click the i win button.. Hulk can not defend itself and should be allowed too.. [SHIELDS AT 99%] Failure Is Not Falling Down.. Failure Is Refusing To Get Back Up
Dark Calling Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 40	Posted - 2012.09.03 07:57:00 - [3] - Quote Sturmwolke wrote: Why Hulk only? Why not for all mining barges? Why the bias? Because Hulk is destroyed the most and actively sought after to be destroyed.. Yet more defense was added to different ships that dont get ganked much at all.. I understand that they are trying to make it so there is no "Best" mining ship and they have given them roles.. I just think Hulk should be the defensive capable one.. Its the most expensive one to replace depending where you are located and like i have said 3 times.... Its the only one that is actually LOOKED FOR to be destroyed on a daily basis... Failure Is Not Falling Down.. Failure Is Refusing To Get Back Up
Dark Calling Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 40	Posted - 2012.09.03 08:05:00 - [4] - Quote Tippia wrote: Dark Calling wrote: Because Hulk is destroyed the most and actively sought after to be destroyed.. Yet more defense was added to different ships that dont get ganked much at all.. GÇªso that there is a reason to pick that ship instead of a Hulk. But why should it be like that? These Suicide Gankers should not be so common in space that it dictates so many things.. Its effecting the market, prices, playerbase and is too easy to accomplish.. The whole idea of being able to "Suicide Gank" defeats the purpose of many things in the EVE universe and takes away from the realism aspect.. Im not saying it shouldnt be in the game.. Im just saying there NEEDS to be more ways to defend AGAINST it.. It being so commonly done now is taking the game down a wrong path.. Atleast in my eyes.. Failure Is Not Falling Down.. Failure Is Refusing To Get Back Up
Dark Calling Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 40	Posted - 2012.09.03 08:20:00 - [5] - Quote Tippia wrote: Dark Calling wrote: But why should it be like that? Because it's good design. Quote: Im just saying there NEEDS to be more ways to defend AGAINST it.. There are tons of ways to defend against it. People never use them, though. So what happens when Prices in high sec continue to rise as they are doing now.. Every item becoming increasingly expensive daily.. New players will find it even harder to get started and perhaps not bother... Regular players will get frustrated and EVE will continue down a bad path.. While these Suiciders continue to Destroy the manufacturers of these items and increasing the prices on them even more.. At some point Defensive Capabilities for miners will go from just a discussion like right now on what needs to be done or what shouldnt happen.. To something that has to happen ASAP.. Failure Is Not Falling Down.. Failure Is Refusing To Get Back Up
Dark Calling Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 40	Posted - 2012.09.03 08:31:00 - [6] - Quote [SHIELDS AT 10% AND FALLING] I understand what you are all saying... But i still believe the prices in High Sec will continue to rise making it much harder for everyone there.. Due to manaufacturing of Modules and Ships happening less and less.. Thats all i have left to say... Fly safe.. o7 Failure Is Not Falling Down.. Failure Is Refusing To Get Back Up

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